Feb 03, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: N/A
Profession: N/
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Possible Solution to the Survivor squabble
From what have read, there are two camps about changes to the survivor title. The first want it to be changed so that there older characters can have a chance at the title because their character existed before the title, or because they didn't care for the title at the time of the characters creation. The other camp doesn't want to cheapen the title by changing it to no death to between deaths, or by making the title account wide. I beleive that this issue could be put to bed with this possible solution.
When a character with legendary survivor talk to the Honor statue in the HoM, on the list of all the title they can display, instead of the standard "display enternal survivor", they get a "survivor options" choice. If this is choosen, they will have three choices, "display enternal surivivor", create a "heart of tranferance", or "nothing at this time".
If they choose to creat a heart, 1337.5k points are removed from the survivor title track. This item could then be tranfered to another character through storage. This desired character could then use the heart, and receive 1337.5k points to their survivor track. Of course the hearts should be like the nesting material, be unable to be drop or traded. The Survivor option menu would then be removed.
If "display eternal surivor" is picked, then the statue is display like before, but the survivor option choice is no longer available. This is to prevent people form displaying the statue with one character, and then removing the title form them. Of course there should be warning screen on both option so people have to comfirm before they do somehting stupid.
I believe this solution for please both camps. Survivor can be tranfered to peoples mains so it maters when gw2 comes along. It also doesn't cheapen the title, they person has to earn it with a brand new character, and also doesn't make the title account wide which also would cheapen it. I also beleive this should be applied to LDoA.
Only problem i see is for people who already displayed this title in teh HoM, so if this is implimented, they should remove the statue so they can have the choice.
Thank you would reading my suggestion, and please leave comments to make it better.
edit: Additions added by suggestion, possiblity of making the heart only work on characters with the same primary and birthplace. Also apply to LDoA without the restriction.
So far the idea have been seen positive, usually there more people who disagrees with survivor changes, i wonder what their views are.
Last edited by Shadowmoon; Feb 11, 2008 at 08:12 PM // 20:12..
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Feb 03, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56
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#2
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Academy Page
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I think it would be easier to make a new title actually.
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: A/
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This is a REALLY GOOD SOLUTION!!!
HEll yea this is a good idea.
This way the survivor title wouldnt be cheapened. It only would be able to transfer the works to our main char. We would start a new char, obtain legendery surv with it, then transfer to other char. No one that got legendery survivor can whine cause we would be suffered from all the troubles as they did. I think very good idea
/signed
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: Heroes of Elonia [HE]
Profession: W/Rt
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You sir, deserve a medal. GG!
/signed
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Michigan
Guild: Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]
Profession: R/
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/signed
Obviously, this is a great idea since survivor is easy enough to get atm but old characters have never had a chance to gain it. Would be pretty nice to get an easy maxed title on my main characters.
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30
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#6
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Island of Undisclosed Location
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/signed
great idea........gimme!!!(even though i already have leg survivor)
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34
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#7
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrein
/signed
great idea........gimme!!!(even though i already have leg survivor)
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Ty for not being those whinner that say I have that title it should be unreachable Although I think that way with kurzick title track(but this way it doesnt makes the trouble lesser just chance given to old main chars)
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41
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Metal Machine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Scions of Carver [SCAR]
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/signed
if this idea makes it into the game I'll buy you a set of armor!
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]
Profession: R/
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/signed
I don't think its a good idea, but I wouldn't mind getting another maxed title on my main. This would at least make people earn the title still.
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2007
Location: In the land of Do Not Disturb
Guild: Wind Riders
Profession: R/
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/signed
I like it. Decent idea, and let's me get a max title on my main.
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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It is a great idea, and would let us all farm Survivor on Paragons or Rangers and then switch it to our main characters.
/sign
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55
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#12
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California
Profession: E/
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This is actually the first time I have liked a Survivor idea, I was comming here expecting some half-baked idea but this is actually pretty great. It won't take away from the achievement of it, since only one char will gain the benefit, and older characters can get it. You still will need to work on one char to get the original title to, very good idea. PLUS! It would finally put an end to all the QQ let me get Survivor on my old char /cry threads (though this is not one).
/signed for sure, a very good idea!
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55
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#13
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: Guildless, pm me
Profession: R/Mo
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Just make it so if you get 1337.5k xp at once without dying, you get survivor.
The only people against it are elitists with the title that don't want their e-peens shrunk.
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56
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#14
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2008
Guild: Team Apathy [aFk]
Profession: W/P
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Just make it so if you get 1337.5k xp at once without dying, you get survivor.
The only people against it are elitists with the title that don't want their e-peens shrunk.
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Gotta agree here.
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Feb 03, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57
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#15
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Ascalonian Squire
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/not signed
This is fraud and the character didn't deserve it. Just make a second Legendary title for those of us who have death in between.
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Feb 03, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Island of Undisclosed Location
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but is it the player that deserves it, or the character they were playing on at the time?
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Feb 03, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Michigan
Guild: Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]
Profession: R/
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How does the character not deserve it, theres no skill in boxing for a couple hours and it would be equally as easy to box on your main character anyway.
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Feb 03, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ireland
Guild: Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2
Profession: E/
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nice idea really hope this makes it into the game
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Feb 03, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22
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#19
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: N/A
Profession: D/
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OK, so now LDOA and Legendary Survivor ARENT mutually exclusive. Both of which take no skill. Now everybody would just go out, make some profession that has a 100% chance of getting Legendary Survivor, make a second that has no chance (or very slim chance) at all to get LDOA, and wow lookee here. As Blu said, "Would be pretty nice to get an easy maxed title on my main characters."
Easy maxed title. That's all the people care about. All you people who whine about not having a maxed Survivor title are no-good people who play the game JUST to max titles out and walk around thinking "Lookee me, I'm leeter than you 'cause I got more titles." No.
And you people who say "I want it because I think it's skillful and I want other people to think I'm skillful." Again, no. Do you walk around in a town and put your cursor on peoples names and see "Oh skidily doo, look at that person he has legendary survivor he's uber skill3d!" No, you dont. And at the rare occasion somebody does walk into your cursor space and you see the title and go "That cheating scum didn't earn it he farmed it."
Don't be hypocrites.
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Feb 03, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26
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#20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: The Order of Chaos Reborn [ToC]
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/Signed, though I'd really prefer to do the actual work on my main instead of nursing some other character up to it.
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